Due to the ever rising pegging fee costs and recent dwindling attendance at our matches the committee have decided to make this post early to help guide in its decision making and recommendations to the membership for the 2019 summer season.
Membership open for the Big Bash 2019 summer League.
2018 members first guarantee of places.
Guests invited for consideration by the committee should places become available
A £10 joining fee will be charged however this may change pending discussions at the AGM and membership opinion.
The season consists of about 15 Matches held approximately every 2 weeks on a Saturday fishing 10am to 4pm.
Match circuit is local to commercials around the Scunthorpe area with a few held slightly further afield. Match fees pegging, pools and Golden peg £21.
Please post below if you either intend to join the 2019 summer league or even if you want to drop out and attend a few matches as a guest should places come available. It is important we get the numbers correct for booking the matches in the 2019 season so as to protect the clubs finances.
Depending upon response to this post we may impose a deadline as it is important we get the numbers correct asap. If a deadlie is to be imposed advance notice will be given
many thanks in advance
2018 summer league membership names are
yes / no / membership paid
1 Leo Martin Yes
2 Mike Dodd Yes
3 Jasper Yes
4 Jack Crabtree Yes Paid
5 John Utting Yes
6 John Lanelly Yes
7 Steve Curtis Yes
8 Keith TT Smith Yes
9 Mick Roche Yes
10 Steve Guy Yes
11 Paul Smiler Atton. Yes
12 Glen Hanysz. Yes
13 Andy Waite Yes
14 Kevin Indian Webster Yes
15 John Balmforth yes
16 Dave Fox yes
17 Richard Cooke Yes
18
19
20
21
22 Kev Duffy
23 Gaz Knight.
24 PapaKev
25 Mick Mcglann
Reserves
1 Nigel David cooke
2
3
4
5
Withdraw
1 James Staff
2
3
4
5
2019 Booked matches below
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Me please
Yes for me Leo
Its a yes from me ;)
yes please
Yes from me
Is it 17 matches next year how many will count.
It can be discussed at the annual AGM buddy
8) O go on then , that's if you will have me .
Yes please
Thank you guys, keep them coming :)
A yes from me !!
Leo nigel cooke as posted on facebook page he,d like to join if possible
Quote from: Gary Summerscales on October 01, 2018, 19:51:44
Leo nigel cooke as posted on facebook page he,d like to join if possible
:)
Yes please
Yes from me :bigfish:
Yes for Richard Cooke
It's a big yes from me O0 O0 O0
Yes please
Great response so far guys, thank you.
Just the following to add comments please:-
James Staff
John Balmforth
Mick Mcglann
Kev Duffy
PapaKev
Smiler
Gaz Knight
any updates appreicated to help move things forward
It's a yes from me johnny b
Guys is the calendar correct as the 7th July is the Saturday as Billy has Tripp booked for the Saturday the7th
Forget my last post senior moment 2018 and 2019 mix up
Count me out for next year please. Life is moving to fast at the minute and I need to spend every spare moment with the wife and boy even if they don't want to lol.I will guest on days I can. Miss you all but I will be back.
Quote from: James Staff on October 20, 2018, 21:58:31
Count me out for next year please. Life is moving to fast at the minute and I need to spend every spare moment with the wife and boy even if they don't want to lol.I will guest on days I can. Miss you all but I will be back.
Hi James,
Many thanks for getting in touch and letting us know. totally understnad your reasons, Jack is growing up very fast and you need to enjoy the time together as a young family as it soon becomes memories as time passes by. Please keep you eye on the match calendar and more than welcome to guest as you know. Once a Basher, always a Basher..
All the best James.
Enjoy your young un while you can, it won't be long before he's ringing you at 3 in the morning begging for a lift from a club.
I'm going for a nap, I was up at 3 this morning :)
All the best James.
Same as Steve says 8)
Like the rest of the lads all the best James.
The first priority of any parent should be to look after a son called Jack 8) 8)
Please add views and thoughts onto this thread so as not to hijack the Southfield booking thread please post on here. Any ideas greatfully received on how we resolve the situation going forward
Do we ask for pegging fees at start of season as part of the joining fee?
If we book 20 pegs how do we deal with the situation when say 22 want to fish?
Do we reduce match bookings to say 14 and have knock ups in between if there is interest
Do we reduce club membership to 18 or 20
Do we shorten the season April to September?
Are we booking the right venues?
All ideas and views appreciated, please help the committee on this one
The club has to pay peg fees on my behalf in advance. I think it only fair that I repay the club for the peg it has booked for me.
I am happy to pay peg fees upfront.
Perhaps payments could be made in instalments via PayPal the requirement being that they be made in full before the first match?
Maybe consider reducing the number of pegs booked?
If persisting in booking Southfield Res book it earlier in the year. Maybe have a re-vote on the "natural venue".
When is the AGM ?
Currently the members get the best of both worlds. Club matches are treat like opens, you simply book on turn and pay. Issue being the club has to reserve the lake and pay for the pegs.
If members dont turn up the reserved pegs still have to be covered.
In order to book a lake then this can be 12 to 18months in advance.
When booking the lake, how do we know how many are to turn up? What commitments do the membership make?
We must also remember that there are very real and genuine reasons for not fishing matches. Family matters, work, illness and of course running out of brownie points. Our home life's are more important than drowning maggots so we must not forget this or feel obliged to attend.
The question is how do we get the balance correct .
Lindholme angling club like ours has suffered with low numbers and now you have to pay peg fees
Upfront to join.Seems a good idea my thinking is..
Maybe pay £5 peg fees upfront the £2 balance to be collected per match as we pay on..
Limit club to 20 in total we have to book 20 pegs as there are members then if no shows at least the peg fee is nearly covered in joining peg fees..
April till September ok matches fortnightly
Venues???? It could fish its head off one week until we get there! But that's why it's called angling
Not bag up! You ask about venues but only get same responders but fish crap and you will get some
Moaners!!
Why was this peg in and not that! We should have been over the other side of the lake always fishes better than this!,we should be on the other lake rather than this!!!
You hear it all through the season....
Jasper books the lake,the owner picks the pegs,god chooses the weather!!!and smiler chooses to hand steve guy a £ ;D couldn't resist last one ;D
It's a thankless task for both Leo & jasper so if anyone wants to take up the reins let them come forward.Or in words of a marriage vicar forever hold there peace....
He's had a couple off me this year mike :)
Your right match organising is a thankless task. A thick skin is one important requirement together with the support and understanding of members.
Hopefully this post will result in some positive feed back from members.
The wrong pegs, wrong lake, the draw is useless all part of the fun at the fair so to speak. Some time it grinds but sometimes it's actually quiet funny.
Certain team members step up to the plate and help out on this front and these should be thanked and commended
There were 24 names on the books this year. It would be nice if we can have responses and views from at least 10 of these.
Mike your reply is bang on in all sports you always get the moaners even in lawn bowls the games are to early or to late in the day weathers wrong but they are the ones who never want to take on jobs of running events Leo and Jasper do a cracking job for big basher members
Look lads ie jasper and Leo think you do a fantastic job ,maybe reduce pegged no to20 .How about to book on next match peg fee up front a fortnight in advance if no pay it opens it up to guests
A rough calculation of league matches fished this year.
Numbers of members starting with 1st match.
1=18
2=19
3=19
4=17
5=17
6=23
7=16
8=12
9=16
10=16
11=16
12=16
13=13
14=16
15 not fished yet.
A rough average of 17 members per match so far with only one left to fish.
So as you see we only had 1 match that exceeded the 20 and no other match that made 20 peg fees from MEMBERS.
Results speak for themselves.Only book 20 pegs unless or until the club membership attendance or numbers change.
£75 joining fee that covers £5 peg per match then £2 peg fee on the day.Club stands the £2 for non attendance on the day.
Keith - completely agree on booking less pegs but then that leaves the question - Do we limit the membership to only 20? We can't have 25 members all wanting to fish if we have only booked 20 pegs....
Its a rock and a hard place.
>:D bite your tongue Leo, behave old son >:D >:D >:D
My what big teeth you Have >:D
Go on Leo old son you know you want to ;D ;D
This illustrates that the current system used is unsustainable. It doesn't matter whether we have 20 or 25 members, it depends on how many are paying.
If we have 25 members wanting to fish then 25 should pay for their pegs. It totally wrong that anyone can put their name down and have the club fork out for their peg then not turn up, leaving the club to pick up their peg fee.
Only book pegs for those that have paid for them.
When is the Annual General Meeting?
Thank you for the data Keith it definately tells a story we have had a 70% take up from 25 members.
There is nothing saying we wont have a 70% take up with 20 or even 15 members.
My views are that we will have to strike a balence and compromise on booking a number of pegs and paying a suitable pegging fee tp cover them be it up front or week on week. The hard part is we cannot predict what number of us will fish in 2020 and when we will attend.
We have to have a process or proceedure that is fair to everyone going forward so we can get the match bookings right as we need to be reserving our match venues for 2020 now.
If we book 20 pegs and have 25 members or 15 pegs and 20 members we have to have a system and agreement so that when dissappointment happens because a person is number 21 or 16 on the booking on post we dont get upset about it.
Will first come first served work, maybe, it has in the past? this way t could icrease use of the forum which we use for booking on & off which may support this idea
Will paying a deposit up front work, it does for a lot of clubs.
What is intresting is other clubs are facing the same dilema so we are not alone.
I have 2 questions,
How many pegs do we book for 2020 , my recommmendation would be 20
Have you any other ideas other than the pay up front method
20 pegs booking going forward Leo,I think as I said pay £5 peg fees when joining then £2 on match day.
In the time that this post has been up only 20 names have been confirmed i take it the rest are not joining us by now everyone should have made their decision my view is book 20 pegs only payments need to be debated at the agm very carefully or we could end up loosing members
Some Fisherys would let us have more pegs on the day/week before?
Could you please take me and roger off the list
:note: :drummer: :note:
:'(Sorry to see you both leaving the big bash Gary and Roger for whatever your reasons, It will certainly be a lot quieter Gary ;D ;D Jasper please cancel the ear plugs I had ordered for next season!Best of luck guys wherever you choose to participate in your future matches, Maximus I have heard on the grapevine the choice of club is Lindholme ;) ;)
Quote from: Gary Summerscales on November 19, 2018, 17:00:38
Could you please take me and roger off the list
Sorry the hear this guys, the LUFC camp will still remain strong with the club with the addition of Mr Cooke esq.
Best of luck where ever you both dangle, and who will now share Billy Monkey?
I will take the last spot
Quote from: steelcowboy on November 20, 2018, 18:24:13
I will take the last spot
Would your application to join be on the basis of paying both the peg fees and pools on our matches Max?
You can certainly be sure I will be attending more matches than some of the committee who blocked me last time but in short Leo the answer you want is Yes and as always if I don't attend any match unless I am on holiday I will pay the pegging fee as I did at the last fur n feather match I did not attend along with a surprise gift as well as the bottle !
If you have a problem with my APPLICATION can you please post the reason as I am a little surprised and insulted with your question !
A long awaited return Maximus :Music_musik29:
Membership is now at 20 and taking reserves if anyone is interested. Full list of 20 confirmed members on other post.
2019 Summer league members
1 Leo Martin
2.Mike Dodd
3 Jasper
4 Jack Crabtree Paid
5 John Utting
6 John Lanelly
7 Steve Curtis
8 Keith TT Smith
9 Mick Roche
10 Steve Guy
11 Paul Smiler Atton.
12 Glen Hanysz.
13 Andy Waite
14 Kevin Indian Webster
15 John Balmforth
16 Dave Fox
17 Richard Cooke
18 Nigel David Cooke
19 Dave Taylor
20 Max Bates
Cheers Keith and all the others you know who you are who sent messages etc nice feeling to be welcomed back