2020 BBAC Summer League rules

[Leo Martin]

Big Bash Angling Club 2020 Summer rules


1.   Joining fee £20 of which £10 will go towards end of year prizes and £10 towards a no show fund.
2.   No show fund if not utilised by individual anglers to be used to pay last match pegging.
3.   Membership of 2020 summer league to be capped at 22 members
4.   Matches in 2021 to be booked at 20 pegs
5    If extra pegs are needed and cannot be obtained above the 20 limit then match booking will be allocated on first come first served basis from forum bookings
a.   League points to be awarded on section basis
b.   1st in section receive 1 point
c.   2nd in section receive 2 points etc.
d.   If there is a 6 man section then 5th place and 6th place will both receive 5 points. If there are 4 man sections then the    maximum number of points earned in 5 man section will be 4.
e.   20 anglers = 4 x 5 sections
f.   19 anglers = 3 x 5 and 1 x 4 section
g.   18 anglers = 2 x 5 and 2 x 4 sections
h.   17 anglers = 1 x 5 and 3 x 4 sections
i.   16 anglers = 4 x 4 sections
j.   If a person does not turn up to fish he will receive 8 points
k.   All anglers are to be encouraged to weigh in.
l.   Anglers who fish whole match but don't catch, lowest weight section points.
m.   Anglers who fish match, catch and don't weigh in to receive lowest weight section points +1
n.   Where fishery allows you can cast to far bank if no angler opposite
o.   You cannot fish beyond halfway to the next angler with consideration and respect to surrounding anglers
p.   Rule breaking in matches
q.   Any rule breaking is noticed, the item is to be brought to duty committee members attention and they will deal with it straight away and make a decision so as not to be kept being mentioned throughout the match.
r.   Out of the full seasons matches, only 3 highest scores to be dropped not 5 as previous.
6.   Fishery rules will apply to all matches
7.   Keep-nets to be dried on bankside prior to match starting
8.   Big Bash 2 day event to only count points from first match
9.   Big Bash 2 day event second match to be run as a mystery pairs match
10.   Weigh ins to be conducted by the first 2 pegs except where fishery staff weigh in i.e. Messingham sands and Grange.
11.   Scales to be read by same person throughout weigh in except for own peg.
12.   The Person running the match or a designated committee member to accompany the weigh in team and mark the sheet to try avoid any discrepancies.
13.   The weigh in should not start without the presence of the match organiser.
14.   Match times to be 10 to 4, 10 to 3 pm prior to chocks changing unless exceptional circumstances
15.   If it deemed unsafe to fish by incremental weather ( storms. Lightening , high winds) a decision can be taken by the match officials as to cancellation or postponement of the match fr a time period. If the match is cancelled all points will be void
16.   Peg allocation for disabled anglers and / or novice anglers.   
Disabled
a.   If park behind peg then disabled angler draws out of hat, no preference to pegs and helper to take next peg up.
b.   If not park behind peg then 1st two pegs are to be given next to car park
Novice
c.   Novice to draw and helper to have next peg up. If end peg drawn
d.   If either draw an end peg then helper to have next peg down.
e.   Both of above to draw out of hat first, before other members
17. Match fee's to be standardised at £20
18. Payouts
a.   Payouts to be standardised if possible across season except Fur and Feather.
b.   Payouts to exist of a first prize and 1st and 2nd in sections
c.   Example
d.   20 x 20 fee's = £4.00
e.   Pegging fees @ £8.00 = 20 x 8.00= £160
f.   £400- £160= £240 pools
g.   4 x 1st in sections @ £30 = £120
h.   4 x 2nd in section @ £20 = £80
i.   First in match = £40
j. End of league payout for top 4 in league
19. Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup competition
a.   £10 joining fee
b.   Run as 2017 with pairs drawn from first summer league match and same rules re first available match to fish etc.
c.   Matches have 2 chances to fish or person available for second leg will receive a bye
d.   Once down to finalists then a second draw to be made from original entrants minus the 2 finalists.
e.   Second draw may include 3 per leg instead of 2 due to reduced numbers.
f.   Finalist of first and second leg to share the total payout as 2 x firsts and 2 x seconds (sharing pay-out around more
g.   Example
I.   First draw
II.   1st leg of 16 ( 8 x 2 round 1) 2nd round of 8 ( 4 x 2 round 2) 3rd leg of 4 ( 2 x 2) final = (1 x 2) = 1st and 2nd
III.   Second draw
IV.   1st leg of 14 ( 2 x 3 + 4 x 2 round 1) 2nd round of 6 ( 1 x 3 + 2 x 2 round 2)  final  ( 1 x 2 ) = 1st and 2nd
20.  Match posts to be entered on forum at least 3 weeks in front of the match
21.   It is up to league members to opt out of match if unable to fish and have 7 days notice from match date to withdraw. Any angler not showing up for match will be charged £8.00 peg money
22.  A spreadsheet will be utilised to record no shows in less than the 7 day opt our rule
The £8.00 will be requested even if the peg has been filled and at the end of the year a charitable donation will be made from the no show moneys
23 .The biggest fish competition can only be won from a summer league member. Small pay-out from summer league contributions
a) When weighing in the biggest fish, if at places like Messingham sands any fish is refused to be weighed by the onsite weigh in team then no fish from that match will count
  b) Biggest fish competition to run from start of summer league to Fur and Feather match.       
24. Lakes where peg numbers are less than 20, committee places to give up first to enable club anglers to fish if numbers are full.
25. Fur and Feather match pay-outs to be on section basis. Total monies to be split into 1st and 2nd section winners only
26. Any BBAC member bringing the club into any disrepute at any fishery will receive an instant ban


November 2019

[Leo Martin]

May be unable to walk but can still type.

can the above please be checked to ensure I have captured every request and decision from the AGM?

thanks

[steelcowboy]

I think rule 24 conflicts with rule 5 , also rule 5 conflicts with rule 21 .

Rule 26 surely this should read any person fishing on a Big Bash summer League or Winter League match would be banned and not just a member , also can you clarify if the Ban is just for the fishery or the club ?

[Leo Martin]

Thankyou Max for the feedback.
The list is growing every year and we do hope not to be called in to used them.

Original rules:-

5    If extra pegs are needed and cannot be obtained above the 20 limit then match booking will be allocated on first come first served basis from forum bookings

21.   It is up to league members to opt out of match if unable to fish and have 7 days notice from match date to withdraw. Any angler not showing up for match will be charged £8.00 peg money

24. Lakes where peg numbers are less than 20, committee places to give up first to enable club anglers to fish if numbers are full.

26. Any BBAC member bringing the club into any disrepute at any fishery will receive an instant ban

Response

Rule 5 I believe requires to include the wording members
proposal
5    If extra pegs are needed and cannot be obtained above the 20 limit then match booking will be allocated on first come first served basis from club members on forum bookings

I can see where 5 and 24 can clash so I propose removing rule 24 in light of discussions at the AGM

Rule 21 should be changed to:-
It is up to league members to opt out of match if unable to fish and have 7 days notice from match date to withdraw.

Rule 21(a) Any angler not showing up for match will be charged £8.00 peg money

in light of comments I propose rule 26 reads

26 Any BBAC member (or Guest on a match associated with the BBAC)  bringing the club into any disrepute at any fishery will receive an instant BBAC club ban.

BBAC members can be fishing any waters in either BBAC matches or knock ups which can effect the reputation of the BBAC club and its abiity to fish the fishery effected by either rule breaking or behaviour hence the ban from the BBAC.

Any other feedback please?

[steelcowboy]

Would of thought a EGM required if you are amending or adding new rules ? If we are truly being democratic

[Leo Martin]

Let's see what and if any other feedback comes in Max and take it from there. So far there has been little feedback

I'm just trying to update/ amend the rules from 2019 following the AGM discussions

It was suggested a rise in none attendance fines, the changes in peg numbers to 20 with a knowledge of first come first served due to 22 members and the disrepute rule be added.
I've also incorporated the fishing half way to next angler rule voted on mid season. Also removed James Maud selection process with there being no team match in 2020.

[Leo Martin]

Are there any more comments about the proposed rules and / or prposed amendments please?
Thanks in advance

[jasper31]

I think rule 24 is null and void as we don't book venues that don't have 20 pegs available - such venues are left off the match circuit as we did when we were trying to book 25 pegs. This then brings rule 5 up to date with a first come first served basis, unless you are saying that if all 22 members want to fish and we only have 20 pegs available then the committee men will give up their places first?

[Leo Martin]

Thank you Jasper. I think 24 is now null and void with the first come first served ruling.

[Leo Martin]

Any more views or opinions guys ?

[Indian]

NO everything fine for me :note:

[Jack Crabtree]

I'm OK with everything

[tackletart]

ok for me

[Skyblue1987]

Ok with me

[Nigel David Cooke]

Spotless Leo